Friday, February 07, 2014

I'll take "Bad Ideas" for $800, Alex...

"What is a pistol case disguised as a first aid kit?"

I'd hate to be bleeding out in a roadside accident and all the first Good Samaritan on the scene finds in my "First Aid Kit" is something to put me out of my misery.

I'll not lie, though: Owning a vehicle without a separate, lockable trunk does cause one to think about safe ways to store a pistol in the car should one be visiting a "No Toting" zone or forced to drive through enemy territory where one's toter's permit is not recognized. Last time I drove to Texas, I was in a car with a proper locking trunk and I still drove a couple hundred miles out of my way to avoid having up with a FOPA-protected way to cross Illinois. 


19 comments:

Uno Mas (SASS #80082) said...

In the SUVette, I usually carry the gat in a locked briefcase well away from the driver - all Kali legal. However, in a smash and grab, that'll be one of the first things taken. I like the tissue box and the day planners, the red cases would likely attract the eye of the theif.

I can guarantee something a thug would never touch: a gun case disguised as the Holy Bible.

Mike_C said...

There's this approach.

Anonymous said...

Secure-It makes locking steel pistol boxes, your choice of key or combo, end or side hinge (it's sold under a dozen other names as well, check Amazon, Brownells, Midway, etc.).

I have several on hand for showing students simnple ways to secure a handgun. For my use I selected key lock, end hinge and bolted it to the floor under the driver's seat of my vehicle, hinge toward car center. Until you slide the seat all the way forward you can't see the box, and I mounted it as far forward as I could - the lid brushes the back of the seat frame when it's opened. It does come with a steel cable to tie the box to something like the seat frame, but I think someone with a large Leatherman and strong hands could defeat it.

It's not perfect, because the lid would yield to a tire iron or very large screwdriver, but that would take time, and unless someone knew it was there they wouldn't know to attack it.

Several words of caution before you run to the car with a drill and bolts - there are brake lines, fuel lines and electrical wiring that run underneath the truck (or car) in the area of the left seat. Make sure that, first, you don't drill into any, and that there is actually room for washers and nuts, and that routine body flex won't cause a nut or bolt end to rub through something important.

leaddog said...

The good news is now you can drive across the the PSR of IL while carrying. The bad news is the you have to secure it if you want to leave the vehicle and do not have an ILCCWL. There is a lot of suckage in the IL law, and only a couple of bright spots. It is amazing that the statute started out as the best of the previous 49 and ended up as among the worst with a Shall Issue law. Mordor makes a mess out of everything it touches.

Marc Pisco said...

Yeah, a first aid kit is the laaast place the average junkie breaking into your car would dream of finding anything he might want.

Ted N said...

Locked pelican case inside of a beat up suitcase, perhaps? Out of sight is out of mind.

Ted N said...

Locked case inside of a beat up suitcase, perhaps? Out of sight is out of mind.

TheOtherLarry said...

I avoid IL like the plague!

Even if your carry is locked up, you may still be illegal if you have any ammo in your car - even if it does not fit any weapon in the car.

Kristophr said...

It does look like a good start on a Last Aid kit.

rickn8or said...

Along with Secure-it, I like these guys even if the are a little spendy.

"Spendy" is a whole lot easier to deal with than the mother of a 6 year-old Aspie who's been climbing around in your truck.

Anonymous said...

super cheap suggestion:

Drill holes in the bottom of an ammo can. Carefully shoot some sheetmetal screws in to secure the can to the floor of the SUV. Modify the can to take a padlock on the lid. Cover the can from casual view with a winter coat or something.

In my case, I welded a chain link in the bottom of my trunk, then put a slit in the bottom of the ammo can. Then I could use a padlock inside the can to lock it to the car.

The idea was to prevent smash-and-grab type thief -- smash window, trigger trunk release, profit.

I was also at a show once and parked next to the same make/model. The guy actually used his key to open my trunk, saw my stuff and realized he was in the wrong place. We all had a laugh about it later. My key was close enough to open his trunk too.

-SM

leaddog said...

TheOtherLarry,

Nope. There are a lot of reasons to avoid IL, but one of the good things this CCW law did was do away with preemption that allowed individual municipalities to fashion gun laws. ALL transportation, handgun, and ammo statutes are the purview of the STATE only. Legal transportation consists of unloaded and enclosed in a case while in the state. A console, glove box, shoe box, or tupperware qualifies as a case. Locked and inaccesible before crossing state lines is a FEDERAL law. For instance pistol unloaded and stored in console with loaded mag laying next to it is perfectly legal for transport anywhere within the state. I can direct you to the ISP web site with the statute and a printable brochure, if you want.

We are bad enough that exaggeration is not needed.

neal said...

I think I am going to make a case for le pistol that looks like a moldy peanut butter sandwich, or maybe feminine protection. Almost no one steals trash, maybe add a little deer piss to make it smell right. The rest of the car already is not worth stealing, that took some work.

The Jack said...

Personally, I found the one disguised as an orange road hazard triangle the most amusingly ill thought.

Windy Wilson said...

Is there one that can look like a Pop Tart box?

mikee said...

Here in Texas, on a long drive we go a couple hundred miles out of our way to try a good BBQ restaurant.

Stretch said...

As God as my witness ... I was holding one of those cases not 30 minutes ago.
The Universe is stranger than than we can imagine.
What ever you think of the idea the bag is well made.

Ed said...

More details of this line of products that will hold handguns:

http://www.goutdoorsproducts.com/product-line/deceit-discreet/handgun-cases/

I like the concept. A good magician will draw attention to his right hand while his left hand goes to his pocket. However, I wonder about a bright blue tissue box marked "TISSUE BOX", as in "Mr./Ms. Burgler, this is really a tissue box. Really. Do not look inside." A disciplined thief will quickly search everything, knowing that people hide things of value in their automobile, like cash to pay for gasoline, a tow or a repair.

I prefer having non-descript items hiding in plain sight that you can take with you. For this, a rectangular, black nylon case that can be worn on the belt on your body, on your seatbelt, with a shoulder strap or in your hand suits me better - the Safepacker:

http://www.thewilderness.com/safepacker-concealment-holster/

Other vendors also produce plain color, rectangular pouches that can hold a handgun and a few magazines that do not scream "Holster here!"

Ed said...



Today I found this YouTube video describing how a Husky belt pouch purchased for $5.50 can hold a Ruger LC9 with two spare magazines.

Holster? What holster?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLJctrpSWS0